Cole: Just a quick note, too, but we call Doug “Doug” at home and we always have. I consider it a term of tenderness. “Doug” and “Papa” are both one syllable; They sound similar, so it almost felt like a nickname. And now I just can’t stop.
Ella: People always stop me. They say, “What? Who is Doug?” I like “My Dad”.
So wait, your mom is “mom” and Doug is “Doug”?
Ella: Yes, I write all emails: “To Mom and Doug.”
How was it when your parents split up?
Cole: There was a period of, I don’t know how many years, when we called ourselves “Palazzo Crew”. Because when Doug moved out, he moved into this apartment complex called Palazzo.
Ella: It was definitely really connecting for the three of us. And I think we feel like we made it through the random apartments and found out how dynamic it is to be just us.
Cole: There was definitely a lot to learn for everyone involved. Ella was in elementary school. I was in middle school. There was a time when we got a sandwich for dinner almost every night at the Whole Foods Deli counter next to our house. And Doug said, “We need to eat better.” So we’d try to cook – and Kamala actually made Doug a good cook – but there was a time when Doug made what he thought was a great decision. He said, “What if I order prepackaged meals for us that we can heat up once a week?” But that was pre-farmbox or whatever, so it was like a Craigslist type situation. So we just had this Tupperware with random spaghetti that was colored like red that someone would bring into the house – and they would say, “Homemade dinner guys!”
How do you think it will adapt to Washington?
Cole: I think Doug is a bit of a chameleon and that’s why everyone loves him. It can fit in any room.
Ella: He’s a good speaker.
Cole: I think of all people, Doug was born for it like by chance.
Your father has never been out of work, has he? What do you think it will be for him?