Episode 168 contains an interview with Vedic astrologer Dennis Harness where we talk about different ways of conducting astrological consultations and some potential challenges new astrologers should look out for when seeing clients.
We’ll start by talking about different styles astrologers use to give birth consultations. These can range from informative presentations of demarcation to more of a conversation style.
We also talk about some potential pitfalls that counseling astrologers should look out for, including the need to watch out for elements of their own shadow.
At one point, we’ll focus on a list of six challenging client styles that Dennis identified through years of practice. This can occasionally be problematic if astrologers come across them during consultations.
The discussion is based on an article on Dennis’ website entitled Vedic Astrology and Transpersonal Counseling.
Dennis is organizing a conference on Vedic Astrology in Sedona later this year (November 30 – December 3, 2018), which you can find out more about here:
Sedona Vedic Astrology Conference
This episode is available in both audio and video versions. Links to both can be found right after the show notes.
Here is an overview of some of the points covered in this episode:
- We introduce Dennis and talk about his background in astrology and counseling.
- Questions of Vedic Astrology in a Modern Western Context.
- Popularization of Vedic astrology in the West in the 80s and 90s.
- More forward-looking form of astrology, different cultural norms.
- Debates on ethics and advice in the West during this process.
- Predictive versus therapeutic and advisory concerns.
- Just because you can say something doesn’t mean you should.
- Different types of conduct and astrological advice.
- Information style
- Advisory style
- Psychotherapeutic style
- What advice would you give if someone was just starting to conduct consultations?
- Six challenging customer styles that astrologers sometimes come across:
- The professional
- Sees fortune tellers frequently and wants them to make decisions for them.
- The skeptic / disruptor
- Don’t think astrology is legitimate
- Would like to surprise or confuse the astrologer.
- Can deny the correctness of the interpretation even if it is correct.
- Often occurs when counseling is given as a gift.
- The agreed customer
- Over-idealizes the astrologer as infallible or god-like.
- Potential to swing to the opposite extreme.
- The confessional
- Confess wrongdoing in order to seek absolution or approval.
- save me
- Expect the astrologer to magically make everything better / more perfect.
- The victim
- Believes that negative aspects in the table mean that they will be punished.
- Do you need help changing life by participating more actively?
- The professional
- The astrologer’s shadow
- Narcissism and grandiosity
- The limits of astrology must be recognized, and astrologers are fallible.
- Awareness of one’s own philosophical and religious assumptions.
- How these may or may not be in line with the client’s beliefs.
- Importance of the emphasis on self-determination.
- Should astrologers receive training in counseling or counseling skills?
- How should newer astrologers start seeing customers?
- How do you know when you’re ready to see customers?
- Older versus younger customers, things that are more or less challenging.
- Learning from books has its limits and must ultimately be learned through consultation.
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